User Replied Trigger
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Abhishek Kumar
Hey Jacob Radcliffe do you want the contact to be removed from workflow when manually messaged ?
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Keith Besherse
Abhishek Kumar Looking forward to Jacob's answer.
My answer is, it depends. That should be up to us. The Trigger shouldn't have automatic actions. It should simply activate a workflow. We then get to decide with Actions what happens next. One option would be to Remove from Workflow (we would need to specify which one(s)). Adding tags and notes are most common actions.
Great meeting you today (this is the correct Abhishek, yes?).
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Abhishek Kumar
Keith Besherse Yup you are right , we did connect today
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Abhishek Kumar
Keith Besherse the thing that you are tallking about can be possible in sub account bot , we will be releasing that feature shortly trigger workflow based on condition
but in workflow but we cannot build that .
since the contact has to branch out of the workflow , what is your feedback just to gauge
should I exit from workflow or make the contact stay there as it is and then someone can manually remove or create a branch
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Keith Besherse
Abhishek Kumar I don't think this is something that should be done with the AI prompt. It is a workflow trigger (I assume that is Prasoon Dadhich's team). I think we need a trigger to activate a workflow that we then can use to take actions (one of which might be putting the bot into Inactive mode, https://ideas.gohighlevel.com/changelog/update-conversation-ai-bot-and-status-workflow-action). But what we are asking for here is not a modification to the prompt or your objective-based prompting as discussed on Zoom.
What would be super nice would be the option to tell the bot whether the human user is taking over entirely or whether the bot should just go into listening mode.
Thanks Again, KeB
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Abhishek Kumar
Keith Besherse nopes , the conversation AI bot actions are within our team any feature that needs to be developed should be developed by us , so if you want the contact to exit or stay .there has to be done by us
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Keith Besherse
Abhishek Kumar, I am not trying to manage the HighLevel development team. I apologize for implying that I care who or which team is responsible.
My point is, this is a workflow trigger that affects the Conversation AI. It also affects adding and removing tags, executing math operations, activating wait steps, adding notes to the contact record, assigning tasks to users, updating opportunities, and a whole host of other possible workflow actions.
We want to trigger a NEW workflow that can then be used to pull the contact out of the Conversation AI workflow if (but only if) we want. But more important than a Conversation AI workflow would be a long-term nurture workflow where the contact might be getting an email every couple weeks or a month. But if they had a live conversation with a human or Conversation AI it might not make sense to let the nurturing email sequence continue without checking for whether it is still relevant.
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Abhishek Kumar
Keith Besherse lets get on a call tomorrow , I will Dm you over fb .
I think we have something solid to discuss
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Jacob Radcliffe
Abhishek Kumar So this is important for metrics. Customer Replies > Fires Hook to detect 1st chat timestamp. User Replied Trigger > Hook out. Average reply time. You may also want to use it to disable external 3rd party chatbots. Some sales teams may also want wait steps where if the client isnt spoken to in 5 minutes or less by an assigned user that it switches to a new user. So you would need this other workflow with user replied trigger to help revoke them out of the 1s workflow.
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Jacob Radcliffe
Abhishek Kumar To answer the question more directly: It would be nice to have an option at the workflow settings top level that removes contacts when users reply. But having that as a workflow trigger also opens up a lot of new automations.
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Carl Taylor
Abhishek KumarI'm with Kieth here. I think maybe there is a miscommunication or misunderstanding on what the goal here is.
This isn't about just the Conversation AI
This is about ANY TIME a user replies in a conversation, we want to be able to trigger a workflow.
Possibly we can have a filter on this trigger, that checks if Conversation AI was active when the user replied, so we can then handle bot related actions.
But this goes above and beyond Conversation AI.
Sure give us a setting if you want on a Conversation AI where we can default what happens when a user replies to this bot (Pause for x, or stop bot or trigger a workflow)
But this idea on the board is about an actual Automation Trigger that allows for handling any conversation with or without a conversation bot involved.
Hope this clears up what we are all saying.
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Abhishek Kumar
Carl Taylor okay carl , we can do that , but for time being since I am managing conversation AI , we will give you an additional branch in conversation AI , when user replies manually , the contact will be moved to the new branch
In that new branch you can do anything you like
- add a wait , add a workflow , link it back to conversation ai , complete flexibility
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Brandon Burris
Went to go create this trigger, and found out it doesn't exist. How does this not exist? This is needed ASAP, and is needed for all communication channels. Probably would take a dev 1-2 days to build and would be a massive win. Especially with all of the AI automations coming into play.
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Adam S
Brandon Burris Yeah for sure, I built an app does this: https://cloudlab.so/stellarr/outb-msgs
That way you can use the context from outbound messages too for automations involving AI
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Rohan Williams
Adam S thank you. The only thing I find is that I need to have payment details in my sub account to actually use it. I don't have SAAS mode enabled on some of my free sub accounts, and so there is no way to use it on those accounts unless I enable SAAS mode on them and add payment details.
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Adam S
Rohan Williams Nice speaking with you just now. Yes this is a problem with their built-in billing it seems. I'm gonna re-work things so you can install it on any/all subaccounts
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Taha Kazmi
100% NEEDED. IT Could be used to train the bot, summarize the conversation, and perform limitless actions, make notes, etc etc
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Mike Hochwald
I made the same request before seeing this one. I can't tell you how important a trigger on "User sending message" is.
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Keith Besherse
Mike Hochwald, link to your version please.
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Tommy Mutchler
Yes, This should also include manual/automated outbound messages as trigger options.
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Rohan Williams
Tommy Mutchler also messaging channel as a filter so we can fine tune our
automations.
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Myles Walsh
I agree - trigger to be fired when a human / user replies to the contact is VITAL so we can stop the automated replies.
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Rohan Williams
Myles Walsh this was a problem we had with DRIP campaigns. A user would send a message to someone and then the DRIP automation would send another message soon after confusing the contact.
If we had a user reply trigger we would simply remove them from drip campaigns or at minimum restart the drip timer so they don't get bombarded with messages both manual and automated.
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Johnny Scott
I agree a trigger for when users reply would be amazing for stopping A.I. Bots as well instead of manually adding a tag
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Rohan Williams
This is a very important need and a huge oversight. Right now I am forcing my sales reps to use tags manually when they reply to leads, but this needs to be done automatically because sometimes they forget.
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James Campbell
As a workaround, can a Marketplace webhook be set up with an outside automation that would accomplish this?
Contact reply -> use workflow to add tag
Marketplace webhook -> start 24 hour wait timer that triggers a "no reply" notification at T-0.
If there's an outgoing sms to that contact, the webhook removes the contact from the 24 hour wait and removes the tag.
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Jacob Radcliffe
James Campbell Yes you can. I think that it's more about giving this as a common action since it is an api thing already: https://highlevel.stoplight.io/docs/integrations/028dcf92ee0b9-outbound-message
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Rohan Williams
James Campbell we get charged 0.01 for every run on that webhook, and it is so basic to add an outbound reply trigger that we need to push for it.
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Robert Lemmens
we also need a trigger when they reply with non-text media: location, voice notes or image. currently, workflows are not aware of those replies. just the media type and url of the media would suffice.
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Keith Besherse
Robert Lemmens, yes! The AI doesn't have any idea what to do with image responses. Especially in the Instagram channel, "You were mentioned by ___."
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